From - Thu Apr 17 14:32:24 2003 X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: carl@andisplanet.com Received: from ggpl.org (drgaila.u-aizu.ac.jp [163.143.133.123]) by andisplanet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0706A91103 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:20:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3E814E99.20503@ggpl.org> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:54:17 +0900 From: Carl Vilbrandt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discuss@ggpl.org Subject: Patents Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Francois, Thanks for your help in making the issues about patents very clear and your very timely suggestion ... :-) about timestamping the design. I am not in favor giving money to the USPO and most certainly a patent ( rather is it immaterial patent a complete outrage or a material base patent ) that is owned or controlled by one person or one large company should be avoided. FP is quiet right ..... Organis even if it is published through the Osaka design competition as prior art could be patented by moneyed just to be shut down or extract money from Organis groups. Putting a patent on the Organis design would be a stratagem move that might invite implementation funding ....... If we patent Organis it must be done carefully.... If you patent the immaterial world it gives it a monetary value so the immaterial world can be taken over by entities with large financial resources. In the time being I would ask that all of us should date and print out the most important parts of Organis design and sign them as the design emerges in our e-mails. As a disscuss@ggpl group we all have designed Organis together it does not belong to any one of us, but all of us and this gives some protection. All of your names should appear on the submission / publication to Osaka design completion (a large very public event) makes it prior art and gives more protection from patents. The purpose's of the Osaka design completion are in concert with the Organis. > The solution is to timestamp and/or publish its > specifications ASAP, to make prior art. This will > be as valid as prior art by patents, because you > do not want to exclude people from using Organis, > but just make sure that nobody prevents other people > including you from developing it.