From - Thu Apr 17 14:32:24 2003 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: carl@andisplanet.com Received: from ggpl.org (drgaila.u-aizu.ac.jp [163.143.133.123]) by andisplanet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4A191102; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:06:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3E81758F.9080704@ggpl.org> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:40:31 +0900 From: Carl Vilbrandt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerry Gleason Cc: Francois PELLEGRINI , discuss@ggpl.org Subject: Re: Royalty-Free Patent Policy (W3C) References: <20030323023513.12473.qmail@inbox.net> <3E7D3BAD.7040806@geraldgleason.com> <3E7ED677.9000704@labri.u-bordeaux.fr> <3E808361.4060103@geraldgleason.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerry Gleason wrote: > Absolutely! I'm pointing to this as a reason for not attempting to > control things more closely. For example, I know that Carl is very > insistent about the importance of the GGPL and its details, but in the > long-run, it is absolutely critical that it is able to evolve as an > ethical consensus of the entire community. GGPL is about evolveing and supporting an ethical consensus of the entire community by asking for ditital ethics and responsiblities and this is a type of self regulation or control. If you don't ask for ethics it will never be discussed. Everyone should be insistent about asking for and obtaining an agreement for the development and use of digital technologies that support digital, human and environmental rights. A Greater Gnu Public Licenses instead of a Greater Good Public licenses agreement would be great.... after all there is Lesser GPL.... why not the Greater GPL. I am trying to talk Stallman in to this.... :-)) GPL's "to be use for *any* purpose" that seems now to restrict the free source community for asking in exchange, for digital technology that is made freely avaiable them, for an ethical agreement for the development and use of digital technolgies seems very strange. In fact GGPL does support GPL which is its frist provision and GGPL could be seen as compatable to GPL.... as other variations of GPL are now considered compatable ..... It depends on what you define as freedom After all what is digital freedom if there are no human or enviromental rights. One with out the other has little or even no meaning.